FYROM actions after the Greek Veto....

FYROM will officially revoke the interim agreement, thus it's validity will be annulled, and that the name dispute talks with Greece or any other country will be stopped if Greece puts a veto on 'FYROMs accession to NATO. In that case FYROM will send an official request to the UN on recognising the constitutional name. Given the intention, FYROM will turn to the Security Council of General Assembly, or to both of them, if it evaluates that it's the best option.

FYROM in case of a Greek veto will also organise a referendum for preserving the constitutional name in order to prevent any current or future high-profile politician from changing the name.

Moreover, a procedure on retrieving the old original flag (Vergina sun) will be instigated having in mind that the change of the flag didn't contribute to mitigating the name problem. It is anticipated this idea to be accepted because both Slavmacedonians and Albanians honour Alexander the Great.

Out of the same reasons, a procedure for retrieving the constitutional amendments from 1992 will be started, while appropriate legal procedure regarding the minority issue of the Slavmacedonians in Greece will be launched.

Hundreds of streets, highways, buildings, stadiums, sports halls and squares will be renamed, bearing the names of great ancient Macedonians. Also the Tabanovce-Bogorodica route of Corridor 10 will be named Alexander the Great Highway, whereas the new airport in Stip will bear the name of Philip II.

Closer ties with Turkish Occupied Cyprus will be established, as well as the partnership with USA and Turkey will be reinforced and implementing Ancient Macedonian symbol's in the equipment of Macedonian sports teams.

Nimitz, the Final Proposal in FYROM name dispute

UN envoy Matthew Nimetz submit his final blueprint on the FYROM name dispute . Believing the time has come for a mutually acceptable solution, the Greek side will enter the talks with that goal in mind, Greek Foreign Ministry spokesman Giorgos Koumoutsakos told state-run radio station NET 105.8. He voiced his conviction that Matthew Nimetz will put forward a new and better-processed package of ideas, while he did not rule out a proposal on the name.

Greece will not consent to the creation of ally relations between FYROM and NATO unless the name dispute is settled, concluded Koumoutsakos.

Ambassador Vasilakis thanked Nimitz and the FYROM counterpart and said that Greek government will examine the final proposal.

According Ignatiou and Mega Channel the proposal is

Double formula

• One name for inside FYROM and bilateral usage
• One name for the international usage
• Suggestion to the UN members to following the second solution. USA agree and will following in that as I have already mention.

The names of the second option are

• New Republic of Macedonia
• Republic of New Macedonia...Nova Macedonia

Slavmacedonians has rejected this formula and Greek side probably discuss it with the second option as about the name.One more think is that yesterday night Greek side make clear to Nimitz that want

• One name for all usage
• Name with specific geographical specification
• Solution below the NATO summit
• Failed of the negotiations mean VETO

In my opinion Slavamacedonins is in the corner since Greece will ACCEPT the double formula.

Greek TV corresponded that Greek journalists beaten and in this time Greek Office is under attack and the FYROM Police is .....Invisible.

source

Ethnos

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skai.gr

Modern Macedonian Salad

In Greece the arguments run as follows:

• Ancient Macedonians were Greeks.


• Medieval Slavs and Bulgars were culturally converted to Byzantine Hellenism and were ethnically assimilated.


• Slav-speaking Macedonians were not necessarily Bulgars or Slavs. Considering their loyalty to the Patriarch and their active contribution to Greek 19th century irredentism, it is evident that they were ethnically Greeks beyond doubt.

In Bulgaria they are not concerned with ancient Macedonians but they argue that:

• Medieval Slavs in Macedonia were absorbed by the Bulgarians, but the latter were not assimilated either by the Greeks or by the Serbs.


• Despite allegiance to the Greek dominated Ecumenical Patriarchate, Slav-speaking Macedonian Bulgars were a separate ethnic group, which in the late 19th century inhabited most parts of Macedonia, but failed to be annexed by Bulgaria.

During the last quarter of the 19th century Serbs also developed their own theories about the identity of Macedonia’s population.They sought to demonstrate that:

• Medieval Slavmacedonians were Serbs. In fact Serbs dominated Macedonia after the Bulgarians in the 14th century; thus, they could not have been assimilated by the latter who were swept out in the early 11th century.


• They preserved a distinctive Serbian culture, a language akin to Serbian and were called “Serbs” for centuries.


• Macedonian Slavs were not identified as Bulgarians until the mid 19th century.

Naturally after World War II Serbian views were abandoned. Serbs were replaced ever after by Slavmacedonians historians who assimilated and further enhanced theories which in the past had been supported chiefly by the Communists. Their main task has been to show that:

• Ancient Macedonians were not Greeks but Slavs.


• Medieval Slavs assimilated ancient non-Greek Macedonians, but were absorbed neither by the Bulgarians nor by the Serbs or Greeks.


• In 19th century a dense and distinct Slav-speaking Macedonian ethnic group, overwhelmingly larger than the Greek one, became the vehicle of Macedonian nationalism, but ethnic Macedonia, having failed to get independence in 1903, was divided in 1913.

We have of course and the US views that run as follows

• Until 1990 considered talk of Macedonian "nation", Macedonian "Fatherland", or Macedonian "national consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic, nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.


• After 1990 found Macedonian "nation", Macedonian "Fatherland" or Macedonian "national consciousness". Greek thesis is now a unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic, nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Republic of Macedonia.

Greek American Community Charges U.S. Congress on Skopjeʼs Name Issue

Posted on Monday, February 11

Washington, D.C. By Apostolos Zoupaniotis

Leaders of major Greek American organizations gathered at an extraordinary meeting on Thursday, in Washington D.C. to coordinate their efforts in mobilizing the Greek American Community, in promoting the Hellenic positions regarding the name dispute with Skopje. The meeting was initiated by Theodoros Spyropoulos, Regional Coordinator of World Council of Hellenes Abroad, USA. President of the Pan-Macedonian Association of USA, Nina Gatzoulis; the President of the Hellenic American National Council, Em. Velivasakis, Executive Director of AHEPA, Bill Mossaidis; Executive Director of the American Hellenic Institute, Nick Laringakis; Coordinated Effort of Hellenes chairman Andy Manatos; the President of the American Hellenic Congress , Dr. D. Pallas; and staffers of the offices of Representatives Zack Space, Carolyn Maloney, Niki Tsongas, and Albio Sires attended the meeting that was described fruitful and positive by all.The leaders of the organization decided unanimously to intensify lobbying efforts in Congress, promoting HR-356 - proposed by Representatives Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Gus Bilirakis (R-FL) - and the Senate resolution SR-300, proposed by Senato Bob Menendez and supported by Senators Barack Obama and Olympia Snowe.

Furthermore, it was agreed that the Greek positions should be voiced in the American press, through advertisements, editorials and letters.

“We have ahead of us six crucial weeks, until the debate on issue of the NATO enlargement in Bucharest. If as Greek American Community we intensify our efforts and at the same time if Greece takes a decisive position, utilizing the NATO process, we can succeed” Ted Spyropoulos told the Greek News.

“There was always a converging collaborative effort between the Pan-Macedonian Association, the World Council of Hellenes Abroad (USA Region), the American Hellenic National Council, the American Hellenic Institute, and other organizations”, stated Ms. Gatzoulis. “ I am very satisfied however that we were given the opportunity for all Greek-American Associations to convene together and discuss this important issue which is not an issue that only concerns the members of the Pan-Macedonian Association, but one that is important to all Hellenes throughout the world.”

Ambassador of Greece to the United States Alexandros Mallias, briefed the participants on the Greek positions and he assured them of the Greek governmentʼs determination in the negotiations, regarding the naming of the FYROM. A pre-requisite for the integration of FYROM into NATO, is the implementation of the good neighbor policy in the process of defining a mutually accepted solution, emphasized the Greek Ambassador. Greece recognizes and expects the assistance of the Greek American Community to promote and protect the issues of national interest.

Ambassador Mallias also referred to the upcoming visit of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dora Bakoyiannis to the US on the 13th and 14th of February, 2008. Ms. Bakoyiannis will meet with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy Secretary of State John Negreponte. During the meeting she will inform them, amongst other things, Athensʼ position regarding the FYROMʼs integration in NATO. The Greek Foreign Minister will also meet with members of the Congressional Hellenic Caucus.

“It was a productive meeting and a coordinated effort by all present. The goal is that the Greek Americans use their capacity as American citizens to encourage their political representatives to support the two resolutions SR300 and HR 356”, Mr. Spyropoulos emphasized. “More than 100 members of the House of Representatives, as well as Senator and Presidential hopeful, Barack Obama, Senator Olympia Snowe, and Senator Robert Menendez, are already consigners of the respective decrees. As American citizens of Greek descent we possess great strength, and we can request from our political representatives to apply pressure and appropriately intervene regarding FYROM, in order to curb their incompliance and to contribute toward a commonly accepted solution for the naming of their nation, before the upcoming NATO conference in April of 2008”.

“It is very important for the entire Greek-American community to promote the Congressional resolution HR-356, which was proposed by Representatives Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Gus Bilirakis (R-FL), and the Senate resolution SR-300 which was proposed by Senator Robert Menendez. These resolutions urge the FYROM leadership to bring to an end its pursuits of propaganda against Greece stemming from the governmental domain and the private sector and to focus its initiatives or endeavors in finding a mutually accepted name with Greece, for their country. Furthermore, they urge the FYROM to stop annexing the Greek legacy and history, fanaticizing the youth of their country against Greece”, stressed the Pan-Macedonian President, Ms. Nina Gatzoulis.

The President of the Hellenic American Council Emmanuel Velivasakis also expressed satisfaction, “H.A.N.C. always supports the Pan-Macedonian Association of USA and its positions on the Macedonian issue. It is now time for a coordinated effort by all Greek American organizations. H.A.N.C. will collaborate with AHEPA at the upcoming gathering which will take place some time in March 2008 to inform members of the American government about this issue. This was a very positive meeting, and I am looking forward to the next one,” added Mr. Velivassakis.

http://www.greeknewsonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8078

Please take action !!!

Dear All,

Please take a look at the lecture that will take place at the Smithsonian Resident Associated program and take the proper action:

http://residentassociates.org/ticketing/tickets/reserve.aspx?performanceNumber=178528

Please call, fax or email.

Contact information:
Tel: 202-633-3030
Fax: 202-786-2034
email: CustomerService@ResidentAssociates.org

Below is the Pan-Macedonian responce.....

Barbara Tuceling
Director of Smithsonian Resident Associate Program

On behalf of the members of the Pan-Macedonian Association, USA, one of the largest Greek-American organizations, we wish to express our profound disappointment that such a respected institutions as the Smithsonian Resident Associate Program, is ready to embrace historic inaccuracies.

It came to our attention through your advertisement that art historian and “Macedonian” native, Aneta Georgievska-Shine “...explores the multi-layered cultural heritage of this dynamic history...Home to exquisite Byzantine churches with beautifully preserved frescos and valuable icons, the Republic of Macedonia is a country or rich and complex cultural identity. Form antiquity, when Alexander the Great created an empire that reached as far away as India...”

Even though President George Bush erroneously recognized the FYROM as Republic of “Macedonia,” back in 2004, Macedonia is a province of Greece since time immemorial. The Slavs, who are Ms Shine’s ancestors, cannot be ethnically, linguistically or culturally Macedonians simply because they did not exist in this area until the 6th century AD, when they descended from Siberia and settled there.

The Hellenic name Macedonia, which had always identified the northern area of Greece, preceded the introduction of the majority Slavic population of The FYROM in the Balkans by well over 2000 years. Therefore when they arrived in the area, the Byzantine Empire was already in existence.

In addition Ms Tuceling two wrongs, our President’s in 2004 and your institute’s embracing historic inaccuracies, do not make a right. In addition Alexander the Great the Macedonian, spoke Greek, used the Hellenic alphabet, carried Homer’s works with him and spread the Hellenic language and civilization throughout the then known world. He did not speak the Bulgarian dialect that The FYROM people speak; he did not use the Cyrillic alphabet, which had not even appeared till about one thousand years after his death. Alexander the Great is our Abraham Lincoln, as he united the North and the South of the Hellenic World under Hellas.

The historians in your esteemed institute should know that during the ancient Olympic Games, only Greeks could participate. The Macedonians therefore participated for the very fact that they too were Greeks.

With this letter we formally request that you desist from engaging in promoting falsified and revised history through your institution.

We would appreciate an answer.

WE NEED YOUR HELP TO PASS A RESOLUTION ON FYROM

CONTACT THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS TODAY!ASK THEM TO TAKE ACTION ON FEBRUARY 14

Background on the Issue

The FYROM issue will come to the forefront in 2008, because the United States is advocating for FYROM's inclusion into NATO and the European Union. Greece, a key NATO ally and EU member, will oppose FYROM's membership into NATO unless a mutually agreeable solution is found by the time of the NATO Summit this April. It will become increasingly difficult for Greece to negotiate a mutually acceptable name with FYROM should the latter become a NATO member and eventually an EU member.

On May 1, 2007, Representative Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) introduced H.Res. 356, which urges FYROM to stop utilizing materials that violate provisions of the UN-brokered Interim Agreement between FYROM and Greece regarding "hostile activities or propaganda" and should work with the United Nations and Greece to achieve longstanding US and UN policy goals to find a mutually-acceptable official name for FYROM.

Status

Currently, the bill sits with the House of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs. Rep. Tom Lantos is the chairman of the committee.

Action Needed Today

The bill has not been taken up by the Committee on Foreign Affairs.
AHEPA Supreme President Ike Gulas has requested a meeting with Chairman Lantos on this issue.

Now it is your turn. As American citizens of Hellenic descent, we must have a collective voice.
Contact Representative Lantos through the Committee on Foreign Affairs Today!
Telephone or write to Robert King, who is Rep. Lantos' Staff Director for the Committee on Foreign Affairs.

Request that Chairman Lantos bring H.Res.356 up for debate and consideration by the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.

Present the reasons why the Resolution merits debate (you can utilize these talking points).

more in AHEPA.org

FYROM irredentism .....

The below picture show the FYROM Prime Minister Gruevski when put flowers on the grave of the revolutionary Goce Delchev on the anniversary of its 136th birth day. On the grave has been put a map of Greater Macedonia that includes what is nowadays Greek Macedonia and Bulgarian Macedonia.

Now tell me dear neutral observer ?

Do you really beleive that this tiny State has fairly policy against Greece and the Greek people. Mant times I have wrote taht cause of this ultra-nationalist behaviour is a ideology that flourish and in FYROM borders and grow dynamically in diaspora Slavmacedonians.This ideology call as Macedonism.

FYROM main headings were, are and will be...

1. Renaming Greek Macedonia as ‘Aegean Macedonia’, and representing
   it as terra irredenta, as an integral part of FYROM.
2. Claiming the existence of an oppressed ‘Macedonian minority’ within
   Greece.
3. Appropriating emblems and symbols, and the Greek cultural legacy in
   general (with Ancient Macedonia as the focal point).

FYROM’s irredentist policy towards Greece from 1944 to the present, a policy that is in flagrant breach of the Interim Agreement signed by the two parties in 1995 expressly calling on
them to put an end to any mutual expressions of irredentism.

AHI Sends Letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Regarding FYROM

WASHINGTON, DC-

On January 31st, AHI sent a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice regarding the administration's failure to properly address the name issue regarding the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) as it relates to U.S. interests and that of our most important ally in the Balkans - Greece. The text of the letter follows:

January 31, 2008

The Honorable Condoleezza Rice

Secretary of State

2201 C Street, N.W.

Department of State

Washington, D.C. 20520

Re: Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

Dear Madame Secretary:

On behalf of the nation-wide membership of the American Hellenic Institute (AHI) we write to express our strong disapproval concerning the administration's continuing failure to properly address the name issue regarding the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) as it relates to our interests and that of our most important ally in the Balkans-Greece.

The U.S. has important interests in Southeast Europe and the Eastern Mediterranean. The projection of U.S. interests in the region depends heavily on the stability of the region. Therefore, the U.S. has an important stake in fostering good relations among neighboring countries in the region.

Greece is of vital importance for the projection of U.S. strategic interests in the region by virtue of among other factors, its geographic location and by being home to the most important naval base in the Mediterranean Sea, Souda Bay, Crete. There are thousands of visits by U.S. military ships and planes to Souda Bay and its adjacent air base annually.

This sentiment has been expressed several times by our government in the past few years, by President Bush and by you, Madame Secretary.

Stability in the Balkans is not only critical for overall U.S. interests, but also because it serves the interests of every country in the Balkans.

Greece is by far the most economic and politically stable country in the Balkans. By contrast, FYROM is of limited significance to the national security interests of the United States.
However, the continuing intransigent and provocative actions by the government of the FYROM against its neighbor, Greece, poses a potential threat to stability in the Balkans, to the detriment of U.S. interests.

Yet, it would seem that Greece has been taken for granted. The sensitivities and concerns of our most important ally in the Balkans and one of our most loyal and long-time ally have not been considered.

Successive administrations from President Clinton to the present Bush administration, have had a habit of taking Greece for granted. These administrations have looked upon Greece as a Western nation and ally that will not rock-the-boat and will follow what the U.S. and the major NATO nations desire. That has been unfortunate and has created unnecessary problems- such as the FYROM name issue.

As you very well know, the FYROM name issue is coming to a head soon. As you are further aware, it is expected that the application of FYROM to join NATO will be discussed at the March 6, 2008 NATO foreign minister's meeting in Brussels. The U.S. supports FYROM's admission to NATO. Greece obviously objects to admission without a resolution to the name issue, and has stated it will use their veto, if necessary, which Greece is within her right to exercise.

If the United wishes to avert this veto, we encourage you to strongly use your influence to bring the proper pressure to bear on FYROM to negotiate in good faith the name issue that satisfies both countries and to cease its provocative actions against Greece. Only in this way will the interests of all parties be satisfied.

To this effect, Greece has recently made a major compromise by proposing "a compound name for the country; a name that will distinguish it from both the Greek and Bulgarian part." Greece's position is unambiguous. It has gone the extra mile. It wants a negotiated, mutually acceptable solution that will be valid internationally, in accordance with the United Nations Security Council Resolutions. Foreign Minister Bakoyannis publicly expressed Greece's readiness to accept a composite name. This is a serious shift of tremendous importance from Greece's initial position. Unfortunately, this gesture was not reciprocated from the FYROM. The time is ripe for FYROM to demonstrate the maturity and the responsibility that a state needs in order to become a member of the Alliance.

The U.S. can easily turn the situation around by informing FYROM that the U.S. supports the Greek government's major compromise of accepting "a compound name for their country, a name that will distinguish it from both the Greek and Bulgarian" part.

Greece is determined to settle this difference before the NATO Summit in April of this year. However, if FYROM remains unwilling to engage in good faith negotiations, then the issue will remain unresolved. Such a situation will perpetuate the problem.

The immediate settlement of the name issue, in a way that is acceptable to Greece, will allow the United States' strongest ally in the Balkans to be the driving force for FYROM's membership to NATO and ultimately to the European Union.

FYROM's "passport" to NATO and the European Union is Greece. It is however, FYROM, that is the intransigent party in this regard, and not Greece. FYROM must realize that in order to join NATO, it must focus on the fulfillment of NATO's good neighborly relations principle and the immediate settlement of the difference over the name. Greece is the biggest investor in FYROM and literally helps to sustain FYROM's precarious economy and reduce its large unemployment. Greece is also a leader in investment and economic development in Southeastern Europe, with over 22 billion dollars invested.

Yet, FYROM continues to provoke Greece and who refuses to negotiate in good faith over the name issue. Unfortunately, actions over the years such as distortion of geographic maps, naming its airport "Alexander the Great," revisionist textbooks in schools, and inflammatory comments by top government officials, encourages new generations in FYROM to cultivate hostile sentiments against Greece. Further, this continuing systematic government policy will hinder FYROM's accession to both the EU and NATO. This is the real threat to stability in the Balkans.

Unfortunately, the irresponsible decision by the administration in the fall of 2004 to recognize FYROM as the "Republic of Macedonia" has contributed greatly to FYROM's increasing intransigent stance.

In our view, and many others, U.S. actions since 1992 regarding the FYROM name dispute has constituted an American foreign policy blunder which has damaged U.S. interests in the Western Balkans and damaged Greece, our key ally in the Balkans and Eastern Mediterranean, for no sound reason.

I emphasize that there is no sound reason for the U.S. to have supported FYROM on the name issue. Further, for the U.S. to support FYROM against Greece, a loyal ally, a member of NATO and the European Union (EU) and the key nation in the Balkans and Eastern Mediterranean for the projection of U.S. power and U.S. diplomatic, economic and political initiatives, is gross diplomatic negligence.

For the record, there is no unqualified universally accepted rule of international law that authorizes a state to name itself anything it wants.

It is not proper for a country which is part of a region to define itself in an official manner as representing the whole region. Macedonia, like the Americas and Europe, is a region. Just as no country in North and South America would call itself the "American Republic," and no European country would call itself the "Republic of Europe," FYROM in naming itself cannot assume the mantle of all of Macedonia.

Tito changed the name of this area in 1944 from Vardar Banovina to Macedonia. The usage of Macedonian as a nationality was an invention of Tito in 1944. Tito, the communist dictator of Yugoslavia, created a false Macedonian ethnic consciousness among his south Slavic citizens for a number of reasons, including his campaign against Greece to gain control of Greece's province of Macedonia and the major port city of Salonika. (See article by C.M. Woodhouse, a noted historian, in the Christian Science Monitor, October 28, 1992, p. 19.)

The United States opposed the use of the name Macedonia by Tito in 1944 and we should continue to oppose it now. In a Circular Airgram (Dec. 26, 1944) Secretary of State Edward R. Stettinius, Jr., stated:

This government considers talk of Macedonian "nation," Macedonian "Fatherland," or Macedonian "national consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.

Stettinius' airgram was prophetic because Tito and Stalin did initiate aggressive action against Greece. Therefore, we call upon you, Madame Secretary, to please use your influence with FYROM to impress upon them to negotiate in good faith with Greece to resolve the name issue and to cease immediately their irredentist propaganda against Greece, which violates the UN-brokered Interim Accord, as stated in Article 7 paragraph 1 of the Accord, signed in New York on September 13 1995 between FYROM and Greece.

It is useful to recall President Bush's words and yours regarding U.S. relations with Greece. On March 20, 2005, during the occasion of Prime Minister of Greece, Constantine Karamanlis' visit to the White House, President Bush stated, "America and Greece have got a strategic partnership. That's important. It's important for our respective peoples, and it's important we work together to spread freedom and peace."

On March 24, 2005, you stated, after meeting with then Greek Foreign Minister Petros Molyviatis, that, "...the Balkans, a place in which we believe great progress has been made but, of course, there are many challenges yet to meet. ... we have no better friend in these challenges than our friends in Greece." And in reference to Kosovo and Greece's role there, you stated, "We believe that this is an area that is ripe for cooperation between Greece and the United States..."
And once again, on March 23, 2006, when welcoming the then new Foreign Minister of Greece, Dora Bakoyianni to the State Department, you said, "We've had a great opportunity to discuss our strategic partnership with Greece. This is a relationship that is first and foremost, of course, based on values. It is a relationship that recognizes the seminal role of Greece as a cradle of those values and recognizes that in the modern era in which we find ourselves now with so many challenges that Greece is a stalwart partner in the spread of democratic values, whether it be in Greece's work in the Broader Middle East Initiative, in which we've all been involved, promoting stability and prosperity in the Balkans, fighting terrorism and, of course, seeking the reunification of Cyprus on the basis of democratic values."

We write this in the interests of the United States and for the support of our long-time and loyal ally, Greece, who is our most important strategic partner in the region and the key country for stability in the region.

Respectfully yours,

Gene Rossides

President

Nick Larigakis

Executive Director

cc:

Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte

Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs R. Nicholas Burns

Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasia Daniel Fried

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasia Matthew Bryza

Director of Southern European Affairs Kathy Fitzpatrick

Greek Desk Officer Gabrielle Cowan

The Congress

Slavmacedonian Embassador Nikola Dimitrov

In the talks between Greece and FYROM to settle their dispute over the use of the name 'Macedonia' by FYROM we have hear the name of Nikola Dimitrov, the Slavmacedonian negotiator.


In this picture you can see the 37 year old Slavmacedonian politician with the Greek Embassador Vasilakis in Ochrid.

Two years ago the present Slavmacedonian politician Nikola Dimitrov was in stationed in USA as Ambassador of the FYROM. On March 9th, 2006 organized by the FYROM Embassy in the U.S. House of Representatives with the help and support of the Office of Congressman Mark Souder.

Slavmacedonian Dimitrov as FYROM Ammbassador briefed various Congressional staffers, members of the media, and Greek and Macedonian émigré organizations, respectively on the topic of The right to an identity: Republic of Macedonia and Resolutions H. Res. 521 and H. Con. Res. 306. .His arguments follow the known nationalistic and un-historical thesis of the FYROM State such as Greece discover Macedonia in 1988 and several other thinks that you can read it in this link .

As I said one from the biggest lier of the Slavmacedonian politician was that Greece discover Macedonia in 1988. With the First Balkan War of the Balkan states against the Turks in 1912, when the Greek army liberated Thessaloniki, the Governorate- General of Macedonia (ΓΕΝΙΚΗ ΔΙΟΙΚΗΣΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΣ) was established immediately, with its headquarters in Thessaloniki. It was well known that Greece had the right to do this and no one objected. Until 1944, no one ever conceived of the existence of any other Macedonia.and the first General Governor was Stefanos Dragoumis.

Also one from the FYROMian propaganda sources was the famous Rossos article with title The British Foreign Office and Macedonian National Identity, 1918-1941 In this article there is a quote that mention

1923: "In the course of conversation, Mr. Lambros [Governor General of Macedonia], actually said that the present was a good opportunity to get rid of the Bulgars [sic] who remained in this area and who had always been a source of trouble for Greece.

Also proffessor Marcus Alexander Templar gave a great answer with some intrestings historical facts such the Ottoman map that you can see below...

Major M. Nasrullah, Senior Captain M. Rüşdü, First Lieutenant M. Eşref; Osmanlı Atlası XX. Yüzyıl Başları; Osmanlı Araştırmaları Vakfı; İstanbul 2003; ISBN 975-7268-34-8

Let's read the article........

At the end they present the map of the present-day FYROM as the map of “ancient Macedonia,” an ancient Macedonia that NEVER existed. It is “their” version of Macedonia. Fifty years under the communist rule taught them to revise their history as it suits them.

On the other hand, the Greek maps display Macedonia in any website and any book, present only the Macedonian part of Greece, as Macedonia. Only historical maps show some parts that belong to The FYROM, as part of Lyngistis, Pelagonia, and the Macedonian Paeonia[1]. It is therefore evident that these maps demonstrate in a subtle, but clear manner that The FYROM Slavs do not recognize Hellenic sovereignty over the Greek part of Macedonia, Macedonia Proper; this is the reason they insist on calling it Aegean Macedonia and not Greek or Hellenic Macedonia. It also violates the Interim Agreement signed by both Greece and The FYROM and the Constitution of The FYROM itself – amendment replacing and clarifying article 49 of the said Constitution. The dream and the goal of The FYROM Slavs are the incorporation of the Hellenic part of Macedonia into their newly independent country with the city of Thessaloniki as the first prize.

This goal began in the 1800’s and not by the Slavs of The FYROM, but by a Bulgarian, aspiring to make the Bulgarian dream come true. This dream began with Georgi Stoykov Popovich or better known as Georgi Sava Rakovski of Kotel, Bulgaria, who dedicated his life for the liberation of geographic Macedonia for the Bulgarians.

On August 2-3 every year since its establishment, The FYROM celebrates the establishment of the ephemeral Krushevo Republic, a “republic” that started by Bulgarians and victimized the Greeks of the area of the villages of Krushevo. The Manifesto of Krushevo treated the term Macedonia geographically, calling for all Macedonians “regardless of faith, nationality, sex or conviction, not being able to endure any more the tyranny of bloodthirsty converts” to rise up against the Ottomans. For the first time in history Tito named his Slavs of the People’s Republic of Macedonia, “Macedonians” Stalin’s suggestion, and only recently, the self-proclaimed “Macedonian” Patriotic Organization, admitted they are actually Slavs[2]. Of course, he simultaneously declared his ignorance about the origin of the alphabet of his own old country.

The view that when the territories of Macedonia were divided into three areas, awarding Greece 51.57%, Serbia 38.32% and Bulgaria 10.11% of the total Macedonian territory, is based on erroneous discernment, which leads to miscalculations. These percentages are incorrect because they correspond to the area of Greek Macedonia (34,603 km2) and Bulgarian Macedonia (6,789 km2), but not to the actual section of the former Serbian Macedonia.

The territory of the present day FYROM (25,713 km2) was not totally part of Serbian Macedonia. Namely, the calculations mentioned in the previous paragraph refer to the republic[3] when it was formed after the WWII, disregarding the fact that Serbian territories merged with Serbian Macedonia in order to create the new “People’s Republic of Macedonia.”[4] There is no reference of “Macedonia” in the Treaty of Bucharest, because Macedonia did not exist, and thusly the Treaty divided the Vilayets of Selanik and Manastır of the Ottoman Empire

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[1] See Templar, Fallacies and Facts, 2003, map The Macedonian Homeland.

[2] “The Macedonians are Slavs” Chris Evanoff, MPO President, 17 July 2002 – Letter to the Governor of Illinois. “Today the Macedonian alphabet and language are Slavic and differ completely from the Greek alphabet and language” Chris Evanoff, MPO President, 23 July 2002 – Letter to the Governor of Illinois.

[3] “People’s Republic of Macedonia” and in April 7, 1963 “Socialist Republic of Macedonia.”

[4] From personal experience: Skopje, i.e. belonged to Serbia and its inhabitants used to speak “old Serbian.”

Also you can read and the Istor article regarding Dimitov claims

The question is ....can we trust a politician that said to much lies as Nikola Dimitov ?

Can Balkan Peace trust a politician that his State *FYROM) generated falsifications and several factors that wish to serve their own interests by creating trouble in the Balkans

Greece objects to the use of the name "Republic of Macedonia" by FYROM, saying this may give rise to irredentist claims against a northern Greek province of the same name that shares a border with tiny and landlocked FYROM. It has also objected to FYROM's adoption of symbols associated with the ancient Macedonian king and general Alexander the Great as historically inaccurate.

Nikola Dimitrov are you trust as negotiator ? or you one that adopted the Macedonism ?