Akritas Macedonian blog: Macedonian identity is part of the identity of every single Greek citizen and we will not negotiate on that

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Macedonian identity is part of the identity of every single Greek citizen and we will not negotiate on that

.......Greek Deputy Foreign Minister Dimitris Droutsas said in an interview at "Proto Thema" newspaper.

Also Mr Droutsas points out that official Athens insists on negotiations only on the name and thinks that it is a mistake to add issues connected only to the language and identity in the negotiations as the Macedonian identity belongs to every single Greek citizen.

Greece will require amendments to the Constitution of formeR Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia(FYROM) so as to realize the formula for a common name for international use. This is the position expressed by Droutsas, who as if covered the Greek red line with concrete.

UN mediator Matthew Nimetz shouldn’t have added the rest of the issues in this proposal in 2005 but the worse thing was that the previous Greek government of PM Kostas Karamanlis agreed to discuss them, Droutsas remarked.

Whole interview in this link.

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AnonymousDecember 17, 2009 at 5:11 AM
http://www.grconsulate.com/isto/images/stories/Newsletter/newsletter-dec-2009.pdf

Please note in this document some well written information pertaining to the Macedonians and how they are and have always been GREEK.
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AnonymousDecember 19, 2009 at 12:12 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nationalist-greece-muzzles-dissidents-corrected-1461359.html

I wish Greece would make up it's mind, which side of the fence to side on.
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AkritasDecember 19, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Anonymous 12:12 what your article has to do with the Macedonian identity ?
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iconoclastDecember 20, 2009 at 5:10 AM
Akritas,

the article referenced by the anonymous comment at 12:12 has absolutely nothing at all to do with the Macedonian identity matter.

For one to have to reference an article dated 1993, to try and make some twisted, bizarre and unclear point (ignoratio elenchi) on the contemporary state of affairs, says more about you than what the incumbent Greek Government has said; in other words it shows more that you lack critical thinking skills, logic! Anonymous @ 12:12 simply fails to execute simple syllogisms. I pity you.

You forget to state:

1. That 2.5+ million Greeks who live in Macedonia of Northern Greece self-identify themselves as Macedonians and Greeks.

2. Those who follow Ouranio Toxo could barely raise more than 1000 votes in the region of Florina in the most recent elections.

So dear Anonymous @ 12:12 lets talk about what is happening in the here and now and not try to use twisted straw men arguments to support the unsupportable; it does not work in the year 2009.
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Regarding the Greek debt Crisis....

Greece, a peripheral european state was encouraged to join a badly designed single currency by the rich elite of countries that dominated it. Those countries, having set up borrowing rules for the currency union, were the first to break them and did so with impunity.

Through complacency and inept financial regulation, and lacking good investment opportunities in their own stuttering economies, they then encouraged their banks to lend recklessly to the country on the periphery.

When those investments went sour, the elite governments -influence from Germany- with theirs globalizing neoliberal leadeships, rushed to bail out their banks first by loading up the debtor government with yet more loans to pay them back and then by imposing a foreign overlord to extract repayments through legal force.

We need History Lectures based on FACTS not political motives!

In November 5-8 2009 at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City took place the so-called "7th Macedonian-North American Conference on Macedonian Studies".
Although a number of presenters strictly deal with subjects of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, there are politically motivated lectures that attack and disparage the people of Greece, the Greek Cultural identity and as they twist historical facts through their disturbing presentation.
These motivated lectures are influence under the umbrella of the Slavmacedonism [5], a post-modern ultra nationalist ideology.

Read more here.

Modern Macedonian question - What is it all about?

Ancient Macedonia was a Greek kingdom situated in the north end of Greece. It became the most powerful Greek state during the 4th century bc after the decline of Athina (Athens) and Sparta. Under the leadership of King Philippos II and his son Alexandros III (Alexander the Great) the Macedonian army conquered most of the world and created the world's largest empire ever, including South-East Europe, most of Asia and North Africa.
After the death of Alexandros, Macedonia followed the fate of the rest of Greece. It became a Roman province, later a Byzantine province, it was occupied by the Ottoman empire and finally it became part of the indepented Greek state in 1912.
Today a Slavic nation attempts to adopt the history and culture of Macedonia as their own and present themselves to the world as "ethnic Macedonians" and "descedants of ancient Macedonians"
This is a blatant attack against Greece and its world wide respected history.
The FYROM Slavs who claim to be "Macedonians" have no historical, cultural or linguistic relation with ancient Macedonia. They descended into the region not before the 6th cent. A.D. long after ancient Macedonia was homogenized with the rest of Greece. Their 'Republic of Macedonia' occupies less than 10% of ancient Macedonia.
Therefore their claim on ancient Macedonia's name, history, culture and symbols can not be justified.

Aegean Macedonia.........

is a FYROMacedonian Slav nationalist term used to refer to the region of Macedonia in Greece, in the context of a United Macedonia.
The origins of the term seem to be rooted in the 1940s but its modern usage is widely considered ambiguous and irredentist.
The term has occasionally appeared on maps circulated in the FYROM, which envisioned Greek Macedonia (referred to as "Aegean Macedonia") as part of a "Greater Macedonia", and is regarded as a challenge of of the legitimacy of Greek sovereignity over the area.

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Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Macedonian identity is part of the identity of every single Greek citizen and we will not negotiate on that

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